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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:48 AM
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Ok folks if you want to know why we are where we are
go spend some time at Free Republic. Realize that many of the people elected think like the denizens at Free Republic... but truly, if you want to know what they think, and why they are doing what they are doing... go spend some time there.

There are a few other places that are even more RADICAL... but truly the RADICALS have taken over and paralyzed the government... and I mean utterly paralyzed it. To me it seems that the people at the White House do not understand this either. You really cannot negotiate with ideological twits who are stuck in radical thought and fantasy.

So yes, them Tea partiers ARE Freepers.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:51 AM
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1. and understand that they are happy to be ignorant...
...if ignorance suits their perception of events.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:54 AM
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2. Oh absolutely... we used to have a friend
who IS a freeper... well before those things were verboten by them... he even had dinner here a few times. The discussions on economics and history were down the rabbit hole... Of course in the 1990s nobody expected people like him, and he is your prototypical radical, would ever get power We used to joke about it. Now we know.

And I am serious, this not talking to the other side... was a non spoken rule.
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Denninmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:55 AM
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3. A very scary bunch.
All the way around.

I said this months ago, I still think their one Reichstag fire away from trying to take total control. And I think they'll do anything to get into a position to be able to do so. Would they intentionally crash the economy to create a crisis situation. In a minute.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:56 AM
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5. We are one second away from a shooting civil war
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 10:57 AM by nadinbrzezinski
and the bunch is looking forwards to it. At least they are somewhat realistic and expect about 20 million dead... But they are looking forwards to it, and to cleanse the country from lib'ruls...

They are radicals, and in my view proto fascists...
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:25 PM
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31. YES!!
I just posted about how well armed my TB relatives are.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:13 AM
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8. I wonder how many, like Cantor, are set to financially benefit from a default?
You may remember recent revelations that he has investments which will pay off in the event of a default.
Surely he cannot be the only member of Congress to have this?

worse yet, how many Dems do?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:56 AM
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4. Costa Rica is looking better every day...


First World Affordable Health Care

Costa Rica is a very healthy country. Costa Rica’s health status is comparable to that of developed nations. The country’s private health clinics have international fame and attract people from around the world for everything from dental care and ocular laser surgery to major cosmetic surgery and life extension treatments.

Costa Ricans are proud of their nation’s achievements in the field of health care. Their up-to-date, affordable, state-run “cradle to grave” health care system reaches all levels of society by offering the same medical treatment to the poor as those with greater resources. Hospitals, clinics and complete medical services are available in all major cities and some small towns. More than 90 percent of the population is covered by the Social Security System.

Many international medical authorities rate Costa Rica as having one of the best low-cost medical care systems in the world, when preventive and curative medicines are considered. The United Nations consistently ranks Costa Rica’s public health system as the best in Latin America and one of the top 20 in the world.

It is no wonder a large number of foreigners are attracted to Costa Rica because of its affordable health care. In the United States, for example, millions of people do not have health insurance because it is prohibitively expensive. For this reason, Costa Rica attracts many retirees from North America. It doesn’t matter if you are a legal resident or a traveler. Everyone is entitled to emergency care at a government hospital.

http://www.retireincostarica.net/living/healthcare.html
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 10:57 AM
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6. At times I wish
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:12 AM
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7. It's time.
I really have to start looking at leaving this corpse of a country.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:22 AM
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11. You're late! LOL!! I've got a whole magazine devoted to
"the best places for retirees to live!" Just waiting to finish my doctorate and I'M OUT!!!
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 02:09 PM
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37. Your Doctorate...
Will you use your Doctorate where you plan to go?
Will you be teaching?

Congrats, either way!
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:20 AM
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9. The president is well aware of the lunatic fringe. His
"obsession" with bipartisanship is pure politics.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:25 AM
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12. Riiiiight! He's not stupid as many a progressive thinks he is...
He's a statesman. As such, his actions are intended to make him appear to be the reasonable leader, as opposed to the gopers who are immature brats. I expect to hear a lot from the president as the campaigns for his reelection and the house and senate reelections heat up next year about the intransigence of the repukes and how they have reversed the progress the Dems were making.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:31 AM
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13. At this point we cannot afford politics
period...
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:39 AM
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15. I think he would beg to differ. His re-election campaign
depends on politics.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:40 AM
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16. Well then, we need a statesman... and so far I have seen all but one
and statesmen are also elected to office. He ain't one...
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:49 AM
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17. I think he is very much a statesman and a shrewed one,
at that. The party that once marched in lock step during the bush administration has totally unraveled. I am delighted.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:59 AM
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20. You are delighted wiht a paralyzed government?
Ok...

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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:02 PM
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21. It won't be paralyzed for long. There is always cloture. But
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 12:04 PM by Fire1
obviously you have made up in your mind that this is all Obama's fault. So, we can agree to disagree at this point.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:08 PM
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22. I did not say that... you think that. I just said that it is time to stop
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 12:12 PM by nadinbrzezinski
playing politics...

And I am not blaming Obama for this. I am blaming EVERYBODY for this. A simple clean bill, should not have become a pretend crisis, that has morphed into a real crisis. That is a failure of leadership on everybody. They decided to play russian roulette, and forgot that one of the bullets is live ammo
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:12 PM
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23. Politics is what they do. It's D.C. It is what it is. He did not
create this power struggle but I don't blame him for using it to his advantage. THEY are the one's willing to treat the public as collateral damage in the whitehouse warfare, NOT HIM!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:13 PM
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24. Did he put social security on the table?
Yes, yes he did. So time to become a statesman and STOP playing politics,
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:18 PM
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27. I'm sorry but it's political strategy. That's why it is well known
that politics is dirty. Always has been and it's not about to change, no matter what POTUS said during his campaign.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:23 PM
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29. Well I hope you enjoy the implosion, after all this is politics
by the way... when ANY government stops working, it crossed into something that is NOT politics... this is like basic history, serious.

History will not look kindly at any of the people in DC right now... that includes the President.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:27 PM
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32. So you're OK that his "master politics" is destroying the country?
Man, I thought the wingers were Macheavellian. We've gotten to the point where the best we can hope for on the budget impasse is that SS, Medicare, and Medicaid, and a lot of other programs for the needy, are going to be decimated. Please expand on how the president's master strokes have been so brilliant.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:43 PM
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34. So, you're OK with teabaggers holding the country hostage?
You're OK with citizens being collateral damage in this warfare HE DID NOT CREATE?
Yet, you blame HIM?? You're as looney as the fringe!!!
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:50 PM
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35. No, I'm not
and I am pretty sure that the best way to handle terrorists is not to let them have their way as the first step in some grand scheme to defeat them 10 years from now.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:54 PM
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36. actually in real life you do not negotiate wiht terrorists
Edited on Fri Jul-29-11 12:55 PM by nadinbrzezinski
and to take the analogy further... once the terrorist or hostage taker, threatens to kill a hostage, that is a trigger for you to send in the tactical team... OF course at this point the analogy breaks since we do not have the political equivalent

:-)

Suffice it to say we first negotiated with terrorits in December
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:21 AM
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10. No shit! Hardly a revelation. It's the voters, stupid. Not personally
calling you stupid. That's my new standard remark to people who are trying to figure out how we got here.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:32 AM
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14. Yeah but there are people all over, including here, that really
do not know this. FR is a nice ... less radical (that is the scary thing) window into the my way or highway thinking,
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:50 AM
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18. They're like a bunch of toddlers. We want our way no matter the consequences!
If it destroys the country because we're to uneducated, ignorant and completely out of touch with reality, so be it. We will get our way and to hell with the rest of the entire WORLD. We will have won.

And for what? It will have done NOTHING GOOD. Of course, they don't know the meaning of that word, "GOOD" because they're all a bunch of racist, hateful, uneducated FOOLS. Teabaggers suck.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 11:59 AM
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19. Don't insult toddlers... even a three year old in a full meltdown
behaves beter than these so called adults.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:15 PM
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25. LOL...sorry toddlers!
:hi:
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Morizovich Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:16 PM
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26. Because Jesus (or Elvis) WANTS IT THIS WAY!
:rofl:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:22 PM
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28. You are exactly right. I recced this.
I have teabagger relatives. They are real. The tea party is real and they're dangerous in different ways. My relatives are armed to the teeth. And they wish the South had won the civil war. They are hoping for default so they can show their power.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:23 PM
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30. So do we... and yes our relatives are also armed to the teeth
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 12:33 PM
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33. Nothing like a little drama on a Friday.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 02:41 PM
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38. I dwouldn't go to freeperville, and don't understand why anyone would,
but it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. That's why I don't understand any Dem who wants to compromise with them on anything. They're malignant, evil psychopaths who need to be destroyed, not appeased. Getting the country back from them is going to be extremely hard work.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-11 02:58 PM
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39. Alas enough freepers are now in power
to do real damage...

Why I suggested going there.
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