Why do you suppose the Republicans want to do this debt ceiling thing again during the election?

Capitalocracy

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Sun Jul-31-11 12:08 AM
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Why do you suppose the Republicans want to do this debt ceiling thing again during the election?

You would think they would get a better deal afterward, because Barack Obama always seems to head left and talk tough during campaign season and go right when in office.

Maybe they think if they can hold the government hostage during the election, they can force him to use their talking points. After all, he always seems to adopt their talking points when he accepts a deal. He never says OK, we had to cut taxes for the rich to get X done, he says we're stimulating the economy with tax cuts and the Republicans were right. So maybe they want to make a deal during election season to force him to parrot their talking points and alienate his base.

I don't know, nothing makes sense anymore.

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nadinbrzezinski

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Sun Jul-31-11 12:10 AM
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1. To force the issue

and let the voters know that this (insert racial epithet here, they will in private anyway) is not capable of doing this.. and should be removed to keep all of us (white Americans) safe.

Sorry.. but many in the ideocracy do think this way

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Skink

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Sun Jul-31-11 12:10 AM
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2. It stops all other legislation.

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LonePirate

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Sun Jul-31-11 12:12 AM
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3. Indeed it does and it prevents Washington from working on America's problems.

The Repubs want nothing to do with helping America.

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Chan790

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Sun Jul-31-11 12:12 AM
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4. Uncertaintly lengthens the recession...

Presidents bear more heat for recessions than Congress does. They hope by making it linger and resurface during the campaign they can torpedo his re-election. It's not about getting a good deal...it's about making Obama a 1-termer.

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OHdem10

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Sun Jul-31-11 12:14 AM
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5. They think it will make Obama look bad. They are after the House

Senate and especially the Presidency.

Look at mess this one caused. What if you are 6 months
out from and election.

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MyshkinCommaPrince

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Sun Jul-31-11 12:37 AM
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6. They only have to worry about their districts.

They only have to worry about winning their districts and many of them seem to come from areas where most voters approve of what they're doing. The President's popularity is suffering in the midst of the current debacle and would perhaps do so in a similar case. They've also frozen government and managed not only to frame the discourse in their terms but to restrict it to their issues. They want to make the 2012 Presidential election about their issues and see a chance to make our candidate more vulnerable during the election.

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cascadiance

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Sun Jul-31-11 12:47 AM
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7. They control the media more...

... and that control would allow them to control that much more which gets discussed in all of the races and frame it the way they want it to another "debt crisis" without letting the races focus on other issues that might help Dems then.

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Kalidurga

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Sun Jul-31-11 05:04 AM
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8. What they fail to realize is...

there are a lot of young people watching this and they are learning to hate Republicans. They are losing voters in almost every demographic you can think of the only thing that gives them a chance of winning any election would be voter apathy and ignorance.

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no_hypocrisy

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Sun Jul-31-11 06:24 AM
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9. To blame Obama for a depression they created.

Old people not getting medical care, not getting their Social Security.

Epidemics created because low income Americans couldn't visit a doctor.

Unemploymenbt at 12%.

Upper middle class unable to buy a new car this year.

Yeah, all Obama's fault.

You think they want to give up that opportunity?

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DCBob

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Sun Jul-31-11 06:29 AM
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10. They think this is a winning argument politically.. I dont thnk so.

most people dont understand it and/or dont care about it.

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cbdo2007

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Sun Jul-31-11 06:30 AM
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11. A Repube candidate cannot win defending the Bush tax cuts in 2012....

After this whole debacle, that is a concession the American public knows we should make is to let those expire, so no Repube candidate has any chance of winning in 2012 by running on a strict "no new taxes" platform.

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