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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:54 PM Original message |
Sitting out the 2012 election will only make things worse |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
1. We need a better selling point than VOTE DEMOCRATIC - IT COULD BE WORSE! |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. The Republicans are so bad. That selling point is good enough for me. |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Have you noticed that every time we vote based on that arguement |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. people don't trust dems to walk their talk. They are the party of "cave in" |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Actually, we don't |
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IndianaJoe (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. Obama figures we'll vote Dem. Where else would we go? |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
3. When the Democrats we elect brazenly |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
5. Explain to me, again, the part about |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. They were trying to fix the healthcare system |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Yes, they tried to "fix" the system with the approval of the pharama companies. No sale. |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. There were good things in the bill |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. If you ignore the progressive gains made over the past two years, there is no help for you |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Limited social progress is the only thing accomplished - there is no difference economically. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. "The only thing accomplished?" Don't underestimate how important social progress is |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. Not ignoring gains, I don't see ANY. I see loosing ground. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Then you are not paying attention if you haven't noticed advances in LGBT civil rights |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Only at the state level, nothing new here in Alabama... |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Then what I said is confirmed. You are not paying attention. |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Don't piss on my head and tell me it is raining. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. I've got a pithy saying, too: Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Who's the baby and what's the bathwater? |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. To put it into perspective, they were NOT really "in power". A blue dog Democrat has ideas that are |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. I've heard this before...pretty much every election...it's getting VERY old...nt |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. What other facts become untrue due to simple aging? |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
7. The nightmare is that we do not have democrats agreeing with us now - |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Do you think they would be cutting Social Security and Medicare |
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TBF (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. There is no reason to do it now - Social Security did not contribute one penny to the deficit |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
11. I stand with the Democrats and President Obama on many issues. I can't think of one GOP position... |
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Tony_FLADEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I agree with you. When Democrats don't vote things only get worse. |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. we might privatize social security and start another ho hum! n/t |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. What are these positions? There are several Democrats are less terrible on than the TeaPubliKlans |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. I am pretty skeptical that the people who have sat out and will |
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Riftaxe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
18. Not sold, I will vote for the few Democrats who have |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. You realize that by not voting, you are still casting a vote, right? |
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Riftaxe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
50. That is one view, however i would argue that |
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lame54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
19. same as voting in it |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
23. How will you convince people if they see Democrats NOT defending Social Security and Medicare? |
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dameocrat67 (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. good point |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Not all the Democrats fought him, and that is also our problem. Many of the blue dogs are not |
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dawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
24. At this point, any Democrat is better than any Republican. |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
27. You are absolutely right. |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
28. A democrat can do nothing dumber then sit out an election. |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
29. A Frenemy or an Enemy, not a choice that matters much. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
34. Before you continue to spam DU with this "Democrats didn't vote" bs |
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katnapped (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
36. Only thing you're guaranteeing |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
43. Why not just support voting for a Dem Congress? |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. All dems aren't dems... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
45. Sorry. "Not as bad" is no longer good enough. |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
48. Like an alchoholic maybe America needs to hit bottom, really hit bottom hard |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
49. If the party doesn't want the left sitting out 2012, |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
51. The sitter-outers are a minority |
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zappaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
52. only a moran |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
53. I totally agree. For one thing we need to take the House back and |
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