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Jedi Guy

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35. For the purposes of the exercise, I'd choose Taiwan if I could only choose one.
Tue Jan 25, 2022, 06:17 PM
Jan 2022

As Klaralven pointed out upthread, Taiwan's semiconductor production is vital to the world economy, not to mention national security. That production capacity can't be allowed to fall under the control of mainland China. The world grinds to a halt without those chips, and the shortage is already problematic without it turning into a way for China to strangle the rest of the world.

On the flipside, while Ukraine isn't a member of NATO, they're the next best thing. If the Russians move in, failing to respond is basically throwing open the door to Putin's aspiration to resurrect the Soviet Union. Eastern Europe and the Baltic States, many of which are members of NATO these days, are watching closely, as is the rest of the world. Apart from geopolitical and economic concerns, it's a credibility issue.

As a practical matter, defending both is feasible. It'd certainly get ugly, but there's a reason we pour so much money into our military. A global scenario like this is one of those reasons. If nukes weren't a factor in the equation, Russia's military is nothing to write home about based on what I've seen. China can't project force the way we can, either. Cyberwarfare is, of course, a concern with both nations, but if things got wildly out of hand, they'd come out of the scrap in worse shape than we would.

Hopefully that worst-case scenario remains a mere intellectual discussion rather than a real shooting war.

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Not acceptable. lagomorph777 Jan 2022 #1
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I chose Ukraine, because it is the one in most imminent threat. MoonRiver Jan 2022 #3
Both. nt Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #4
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Usually don't participate in false binary choices... Wounded Bear Jan 2022 #5
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It's false to me...nt Wounded Bear Jan 2022 #8
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Except it sort of is? nt Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #14
Perhaps not, but when the number one response is "none of the options provided" ... 11 Bravo Jan 2022 #33
Burgers? Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #9
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+100 Yes! skylucy Jan 2022 #23
this or that. TheBlackAdder Jan 2022 #12
Why ask such a question? Doodley Jan 2022 #13
The answer is yes! Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #19
Or maybe? nt MerryHolidays Jan 2022 #22
The point is moot sarisataka Jan 2022 #15
It's a moo point. Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #18
One of the best lines ever. phylny Jan 2022 #21
Ukraine - a shooting war that destroys Ukraine wouldn't damage the world economy Klaralven Jan 2022 #16
Cool post Bro FrankBooth Jan 2022 #17
It's baaaaaaaaaack.... Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #20
Chuckle! FSogol Jan 2022 #34
Should we ask which has the most obese people? hlthe2b Jan 2022 #24
C'mon... sarisataka Jan 2022 #29
.... Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #32
Pizza tenderfoot Jan 2022 #25
Exactly. Who doesn't like pizza? Midnight Writer Jan 2022 #28
Yes, but do love pizza more than you do burgers, tacos or fried chicken? Tommy Carcetti Jan 2022 #30
My fave brand tenderfoot Jan 2022 #31
Troll Pizza delivered by uberalles eats. Swede Jan 2022 #36
Neither. beaglelover Jan 2022 #26
No. hamsterjill Jan 2022 #27
For the purposes of the exercise, I'd choose Taiwan if I could only choose one. Jedi Guy Jan 2022 #35
You forgot Poland Ptah Jan 2022 #37
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