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shrike3

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19. The fact that it's coming from people who don't go to the university doesn't make it okay.

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #11)

Tue Apr 23, 2024, 12:45 PM

Apr 23

It doesn't matter who's chanting it. It's still not okay. Once again, back in the day DU would be outraged by such chants against Muslim Americans. I'm not seeing the outrage now.

Where did I say I was blaming Columbia's president and the university? And shouldn't the ones chanting such slogans be called out, whether or not they were students?

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What Is Really Going On at Columbia University? [View all] Doc Sportello Apr 23 OP

K&R. Was just going to post this. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 23 #1

I saw an interview with one of the student organizers Cuthbert Allgood Apr 23 #2

We have to be careful about the videos online ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #3

That was the indication this woman gave, Cuthbert Allgood Apr 23 #36

They'd better be more vocal about that. Or separate themselves from agitators as much as they can. shrike3 Apr 23 #6

Waiting for the DUers who will bemoan this as antisemitism, intheflow Apr 23 #4

Most of us can differentiate between antisemitism and protesting the actions of a sovereign country. shrike3 Apr 23 #7

Back in the day? intheflow Apr 23 #8

I was locked out during the Great Hack of 2016. Read for a few years, then rejoined in 2020. shrike3 Apr 23 #9

"How is "Go Back to Poland" not antisemitic?" -- this is an outside group, and not on campus obamanut2012 Apr 23 #11

The fact that it's coming from people who don't go to the university doesn't make it okay. shrike3 Apr 23 #19

We are outraged about it... ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #37

Haven't seen much outrage here. Good to know it does exist, though. shrike3 Apr 23 #38

I would bet money on the notion that everyone on this website thinks that statement is anti Semitic ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #41

How about the fact that it's being said? Doesn't matter who said it. shrike3 Apr 23 #42

If we were required to denounce every anti Semitic statement in the world ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #43

Nazis in Florida not being called out is a defense for folks not calling out "Go Back to Poland?" shrike3 Apr 23 #75

Lots of genocide in the world. Guess there are those who are picking and choosing, too. shrike3 Apr 23 #77

Of course it is wrong to yell hateful anti-Semitic things at anyone. GumboYaYa Apr 23 #56

One can kind of get upset about both? I can imagine more than a few folks are? shrike3 Apr 23 #76

So the fact that protestors are being smeared is more important than antisemitic chants. shrike3 Apr 23 #78

Ah, I voluntarily stepped down in 2016, so sorry that happened to you. intheflow Apr 23 #22

Okay, that's fair. As I've said in other posts, one can differentiate. Between the actions of a sovereign nation and shrike3 Apr 23 #26

So what if he/she joined up in 2020? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 23 #10

I was locked out during the Great Hack of 2016. shrike3 Apr 23 #20

I'm just going to note that intheflow Apr 25 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Apr 26 #94

Look, if you're gonna refer to specific posts, intheflow Apr 26 #97

What "2016 bannings"? Didn't happen. betsuni Apr 26 #95

Yes it did. intheflow Apr 26 #96

The usual way, though. There wasn't any blanket banning. People who refused to agree to the betsuni Apr 26 #98

From what I've seen, a lot can't differentiate Doc Sportello Apr 23 #15

I hear this a lot when antisemites meet with criticism of real antisemitism. Beastly Boy Apr 23 #33

I will give your reply the answer it deserves Doc Sportello Apr 23 #47

How can you possibly expect people to judge you fairly when you refuse to define Beastly Boy Apr 23 #63

It goes the other way, too. Criticizing antisemitism is dismissed because, well, you know. shrike3 Apr 23 #40

If one is going to make a charge of something as terrible as antisemitism Doc Sportello Apr 23 #54

Where did I charge anyone with antisemitism? shrike3 Apr 23 #74

Believable if one is credulous Sympthsical Apr 23 #13

The organizer said they're not anti-Semitic. Case closed, I guess, nothing to see here, move along. Jedi Guy Apr 23 #28

The curtain drops, a gang of Gen X cops assembles... Prairie Gates Apr 23 #5

Payback time Polybius Apr 23 #18

The president of Columbia University disagrees with these assessments. Beastly Boy Apr 23 #12

In The Current RobinA Apr 23 #14

That would include the instances highlighted in the OP, right? Beastly Boy Apr 23 #23

Not according to her own students quoted here Doc Sportello Apr 23 #16

According to her own students, does she not disagree with their assessments, or Beastly Boy Apr 23 #21

Oh please Doc Sportello Apr 23 #25

Are you saying that being a student at a college encampment makes you more informed and objective than Beastly Boy Apr 23 #31

You can't even reply to what I wrote Doc Sportello Apr 23 #45

Oh I am replying to what you wrote allright. Beastly Boy Apr 23 #61

The President of the United States disagrees with these assessments Coventina Apr 23 #17

What is your point? intheflow Apr 23 #24

My point is that I feel Biden is more trustworthy than randos on Slate. n/t Coventina Apr 23 #34

The President of Colombia University - and any University - is beholden to money coming in. haele Apr 25 #91

I recently replied to a remarkably similar argument in this thread (post 61) Beastly Boy Apr 25 #92

It is all well and good that these people see everything as all kumbaya. sarisataka Apr 23 #27

Blanket statements are not well and good Doc Sportello Apr 23 #29

So as long as at least one Jewish student. sarisataka Apr 23 #32

Never said that of course Doc Sportello Apr 23 #48

So all it takes is ONE student saying they feel safe sarisataka Apr 23 #50

So no factual or reasoned response? Doc Sportello Apr 23 #52

No reply to my question says more sarisataka Apr 23 #53

Be glad to Doc Sportello Apr 23 #55

No problem sarisataka Apr 23 #58

Perhaps you are having dinner sarisataka Apr 23 #60

Patiently waiting sarisataka Apr 24 #87

Still waiting sarisataka Apr 24 #88

I am beginning to doubt your sincereity sarisataka Apr 24 #89

I guess you really aren't "glad to" do the courtesy sarisataka Apr 25 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 24 #82

Well, this is going on. Patton French Apr 23 #30

"What's REALLY going on in the Warsaw ghetto?" BannonsLiver Apr 23 #35

Is that supposed to be an analogy? Doc Sportello Apr 23 #49

Is that supposed to be some kind of cogent response? BannonsLiver Apr 24 #81

Some are delighted with this story... Mike Nelson Apr 23 #39

What's going on is a whole lot of students who pay about $90,000 a year for the privilege, are Vinca Apr 23 #44

I Am a Jewish Student at Columbia. Don't Believe What You're Being Told About 'Campus Antisemitism' Nanjeanne Apr 23 #46

Thank you Doc Sportello Apr 23 #51

You wouldn't think being against innocent people being murdered whether Israeli or Palestinian would Nanjeanne Apr 23 #57

What did the people of Palestine marybourg Apr 23 #59

The people of Palestine? What are you talking about? I can't respond to until I have a clue what you Nanjeanne Apr 23 #62

Why do you keep saying Gaza is occupied? former9thward Apr 23 #64

Ok let's talk about what you think about these facts. If you want to discuss semantics over occupied Nanjeanne Apr 23 #66

Egypt controls the Rafah crossing. former9thward Apr 23 #72

I actually mentioned Rafah Crossing and how the border works and who has permission to,use it and how Nanjeanne Apr 24 #80

I will be back in Israel to many of the same places next month. former9thward Apr 24 #84

Have a good trip. Stay safe. Thanks for telling me so much about myself. Most laughs I've had on DU in long time Nanjeanne Apr 24 #86

Just a couple of points that seem respondable to: marybourg Apr 23 #65

Your questions are rather insulting but I'll respond. My uncle and aunt worked with Vivian Silver's Nanjeanne Apr 23 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 24 #83

It is, apparently, a great Columbia U. tradition vanamonde Apr 23 #67

Another opinion that arrived in my inbox today Mossfern Apr 23 #69

I'd love to read the article. Can you post a link without having to subscribe? Thanks. Nanjeanne Apr 23 #70

I'll try, Mossfern Apr 23 #73

"There are zionists in our camp" Mountainguy Apr 23 #71

Never thought I'd put so many people on ignore in one night. shrike3 Apr 23 #79

I'm close to that as well... Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #99

I don't know if it was planned, but certain factions sure must like it. shrike3 Apr 26 #100

I'm not suggesting a grand conspiracy.... Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #101

I don't believe in grand conspiracies. shrike3 Apr 26 #102

Somehow all these awful (non-student) people keep getting on campus. Ace Rothstein Apr 24 #85