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sarisataka

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89. I am beginning to doubt your sincereity

Reply to Doc Sportello (Reply #55)

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What Is Really Going On at Columbia University? [View all] Doc Sportello Apr 23 OP

K&R. Was just going to post this. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 23 #1

I saw an interview with one of the student organizers Cuthbert Allgood Apr 23 #2

We have to be careful about the videos online ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #3

That was the indication this woman gave, Cuthbert Allgood Apr 23 #36

They'd better be more vocal about that. Or separate themselves from agitators as much as they can. shrike3 Apr 23 #6

Waiting for the DUers who will bemoan this as antisemitism, intheflow Apr 23 #4

Most of us can differentiate between antisemitism and protesting the actions of a sovereign country. shrike3 Apr 23 #7

Back in the day? intheflow Apr 23 #8

I was locked out during the Great Hack of 2016. Read for a few years, then rejoined in 2020. shrike3 Apr 23 #9

"How is "Go Back to Poland" not antisemitic?" -- this is an outside group, and not on campus obamanut2012 Apr 23 #11

The fact that it's coming from people who don't go to the university doesn't make it okay. shrike3 Apr 23 #19

We are outraged about it... ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #37

Haven't seen much outrage here. Good to know it does exist, though. shrike3 Apr 23 #38

I would bet money on the notion that everyone on this website thinks that statement is anti Semitic ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #41

How about the fact that it's being said? Doesn't matter who said it. shrike3 Apr 23 #42

If we were required to denounce every anti Semitic statement in the world ExciteBike66 Apr 23 #43

Nazis in Florida not being called out is a defense for folks not calling out "Go Back to Poland?" shrike3 Apr 23 #75

Lots of genocide in the world. Guess there are those who are picking and choosing, too. shrike3 Apr 23 #77

Of course it is wrong to yell hateful anti-Semitic things at anyone. GumboYaYa Apr 23 #56

One can kind of get upset about both? I can imagine more than a few folks are? shrike3 Apr 23 #76

So the fact that protestors are being smeared is more important than antisemitic chants. shrike3 Apr 23 #78

Ah, I voluntarily stepped down in 2016, so sorry that happened to you. intheflow Apr 23 #22

Okay, that's fair. As I've said in other posts, one can differentiate. Between the actions of a sovereign nation and shrike3 Apr 23 #26

So what if he/she joined up in 2020? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 23 #10

I was locked out during the Great Hack of 2016. shrike3 Apr 23 #20

I'm just going to note that intheflow Apr 25 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Apr 26 #94

Look, if you're gonna refer to specific posts, intheflow Apr 26 #97

What "2016 bannings"? Didn't happen. betsuni Apr 26 #95

Yes it did. intheflow Apr 26 #96

The usual way, though. There wasn't any blanket banning. People who refused to agree to the betsuni Apr 26 #98

From what I've seen, a lot can't differentiate Doc Sportello Apr 23 #15

I hear this a lot when antisemites meet with criticism of real antisemitism. Beastly Boy Apr 23 #33

I will give your reply the answer it deserves Doc Sportello Apr 23 #47

How can you possibly expect people to judge you fairly when you refuse to define Beastly Boy Apr 23 #63

It goes the other way, too. Criticizing antisemitism is dismissed because, well, you know. shrike3 Apr 23 #40

If one is going to make a charge of something as terrible as antisemitism Doc Sportello Apr 23 #54

Where did I charge anyone with antisemitism? shrike3 Apr 23 #74

Believable if one is credulous Sympthsical Apr 23 #13

The organizer said they're not anti-Semitic. Case closed, I guess, nothing to see here, move along. Jedi Guy Apr 23 #28

The curtain drops, a gang of Gen X cops assembles... Prairie Gates Apr 23 #5

Payback time Polybius Apr 23 #18

The president of Columbia University disagrees with these assessments. Beastly Boy Apr 23 #12

In The Current RobinA Apr 23 #14

That would include the instances highlighted in the OP, right? Beastly Boy Apr 23 #23

Not according to her own students quoted here Doc Sportello Apr 23 #16

According to her own students, does she not disagree with their assessments, or Beastly Boy Apr 23 #21

Oh please Doc Sportello Apr 23 #25

Are you saying that being a student at a college encampment makes you more informed and objective than Beastly Boy Apr 23 #31

You can't even reply to what I wrote Doc Sportello Apr 23 #45

Oh I am replying to what you wrote allright. Beastly Boy Apr 23 #61

The President of the United States disagrees with these assessments Coventina Apr 23 #17

What is your point? intheflow Apr 23 #24

My point is that I feel Biden is more trustworthy than randos on Slate. n/t Coventina Apr 23 #34

The President of Colombia University - and any University - is beholden to money coming in. haele Apr 25 #91

I recently replied to a remarkably similar argument in this thread (post 61) Beastly Boy Apr 25 #92

It is all well and good that these people see everything as all kumbaya. sarisataka Apr 23 #27

Blanket statements are not well and good Doc Sportello Apr 23 #29

So as long as at least one Jewish student. sarisataka Apr 23 #32

Never said that of course Doc Sportello Apr 23 #48

So all it takes is ONE student saying they feel safe sarisataka Apr 23 #50

So no factual or reasoned response? Doc Sportello Apr 23 #52

No reply to my question says more sarisataka Apr 23 #53

Be glad to Doc Sportello Apr 23 #55

No problem sarisataka Apr 23 #58

Perhaps you are having dinner sarisataka Apr 23 #60

Patiently waiting sarisataka Apr 24 #87

Still waiting sarisataka Apr 24 #88

I am beginning to doubt your sincereity sarisataka Apr 24 #89

I guess you really aren't "glad to" do the courtesy sarisataka Apr 25 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 24 #82

Well, this is going on. Patton French Apr 23 #30

"What's REALLY going on in the Warsaw ghetto?" BannonsLiver Apr 23 #35

Is that supposed to be an analogy? Doc Sportello Apr 23 #49

Is that supposed to be some kind of cogent response? BannonsLiver Apr 24 #81

Some are delighted with this story... Mike Nelson Apr 23 #39

What's going on is a whole lot of students who pay about $90,000 a year for the privilege, are Vinca Apr 23 #44

I Am a Jewish Student at Columbia. Don't Believe What You're Being Told About 'Campus Antisemitism' Nanjeanne Apr 23 #46

Thank you Doc Sportello Apr 23 #51

You wouldn't think being against innocent people being murdered whether Israeli or Palestinian would Nanjeanne Apr 23 #57

What did the people of Palestine marybourg Apr 23 #59

The people of Palestine? What are you talking about? I can't respond to until I have a clue what you Nanjeanne Apr 23 #62

Why do you keep saying Gaza is occupied? former9thward Apr 23 #64

Ok let's talk about what you think about these facts. If you want to discuss semantics over occupied Nanjeanne Apr 23 #66

Egypt controls the Rafah crossing. former9thward Apr 23 #72

I actually mentioned Rafah Crossing and how the border works and who has permission to,use it and how Nanjeanne Apr 24 #80

I will be back in Israel to many of the same places next month. former9thward Apr 24 #84

Have a good trip. Stay safe. Thanks for telling me so much about myself. Most laughs I've had on DU in long time Nanjeanne Apr 24 #86

Just a couple of points that seem respondable to: marybourg Apr 23 #65

Your questions are rather insulting but I'll respond. My uncle and aunt worked with Vivian Silver's Nanjeanne Apr 23 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 24 #83

It is, apparently, a great Columbia U. tradition vanamonde Apr 23 #67

Another opinion that arrived in my inbox today Mossfern Apr 23 #69

I'd love to read the article. Can you post a link without having to subscribe? Thanks. Nanjeanne Apr 23 #70

I'll try, Mossfern Apr 23 #73

"There are zionists in our camp" Mountainguy Apr 23 #71

Never thought I'd put so many people on ignore in one night. shrike3 Apr 23 #79

I'm close to that as well... Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #99

I don't know if it was planned, but certain factions sure must like it. shrike3 Apr 26 #100

I'm not suggesting a grand conspiracy.... Happy Hoosier Apr 26 #101

I don't believe in grand conspiracies. shrike3 Apr 26 #102

Somehow all these awful (non-student) people keep getting on campus. Ace Rothstein Apr 24 #85