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madaboutharry

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57. Just so that everyone understands the extent of rape and sexual violence that occurred on October 7th...

Wed Apr 24, 2024, 08:22 PM

Apr 24

It has been widely reported by Israeli media, based on medical records victims released to the media, autopsy reports, and information from sexual violence crisis centers, that it was not only woman who were raped and mutilated. Men were raped. The bodies of men were castrated and sexually mutilated.
The United Nations leaving out these atrocities from their report sends a clear message to the world. The U,N, has been captured by antisemitic extremists who say very loudly every day that Jews Don't Count.

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Israel fumes as UN secretary-general leaves Hamas off sexual violence blacklist [View all] Beastly Boy Apr 23 OP

Doesn't surprise me in the least, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 23 #1

Assuming there was evidence against Hamas, does not stand the UN in high esteeme. dutch777 Apr 23 #2

"Assuming there was evidence?" question everything Apr 23 #7

You realize that Hamas recorded the gang rapes, tortures, and mcar Apr 23 #11

Yep 100% Dorian Gray Apr 24 #23

Jesus Wept. Hamas made videos of themselves in the acts of violence. Hekate Apr 24 #31

I'm Fuming 😡 too!! Cha Apr 23 #3

Obvious UN bias ripcord Apr 23 #4

Interesting...This part here. sheshe2 Apr 23 #5

Yeah, well this news Blows that " UN above reproach" Cha Apr 23 #8

Indeed it does. sheshe2 Apr 23 #12

Suddenly the UN must be trusted even though it's obviously The Establishment status quo. betsuni Apr 24 #20

Both Hamas and Israel should be on the blacklist Celerity Apr 23 #6

You mean this Reem Alsalem? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 23 #10

Oh, and she also said this: MarineCombatEngineer Apr 23 #13

She is far from the only one levelling these charges. A special US State Department panel recommended months ago Celerity Apr 23 #14

While these may have happened, they are far and few between, not excusing their behavior, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 23 #15

As I said, Hamas should be on the list. I hope that the decision to not include them is reversed. Celerity Apr 23 #16

Yes you did and I commend you for that, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 23 #17

There is a bit more to it... AloeVera Apr 24 #30

Do you have any expectation of the proposed investigation disagreeing with Beastly Boy Apr 24 #37

Weaponization is exactly the question. But by whom? AloeVera Apr 24 #41

A good question to ask the rape victims. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #43

There is no evidence except circumstantial. AloeVera Apr 24 #44

I typed a long, unpolite reply but deleted it. I'll let them speak for me- sarisataka Apr 24 #45

I typed a long response too. AloeVera Apr 24 #48

If you are correct the chasm is too wide sarisataka Apr 24 #49

No, that's not correct at all. AloeVera Apr 24 #52

Agreed, sarisataka Apr 24 #53

You beat me to it. AloeVera Apr 24 #56

Are the testimonies of women gang raped by Hamas during the invasion and in captivity Beastly Boy Apr 24 #46

There are no testimonies from women who were raped on Oct 7. AloeVera Apr 24 #47

Believe the women. Including those who are too dead or too captive to give testimony. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #58

Plus ca change... AloeVera Apr 24 #59

Not so quick. At least one of my links includes the testimony of a live victim. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #60

You are manipulating facts and putting words in my mouth. AloeVera Apr 25 #64

Yes ignore the video eviddence Hamas members posted ripcord Apr 24 #50

No such videos were presented to the UN Mission Team AloeVera Apr 24 #55

That's not what Patten wrote. It is a small part of what she wrote, taken entirely out of context. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #61

Advocate for a full and proper investigation. AloeVera Apr 25 #62

Why is inclusion of a terrorist group complicit in mass rapes in the UN list of entities guilty of sexual violence Beastly Boy Apr 25 #63

You'll have to ponder those questions on your own now. AloeVera Apr 25 #65

I didn't expect any answers. Beastly Boy Apr 25 #66

See post #64 AloeVera Apr 25 #67

If you say so. Beastly Boy Apr 25 #68

You don't like Sec. Blinken? TeamProg Apr 24 #36

Never remotely said that. I think on balance he has been superb. Celerity Apr 24 #54

Agreed. iemanja Apr 24 #21

One cited for a single allegation of a rape, the other for hundreds of documented instances of rape. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #34

"Both sides", BB. maxsolomon Apr 24 #42

UN has lost all credibility mcar Apr 23 #9

Make a statement and drop out if the UN is so unfair. TeamProg Apr 24 #18

This sounds vaguely familiar. I think i've I've heard something similar before. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #19

Your example is off base because no one lives at the UN. TeamProg Apr 24 #24

It is the sentiment and not residence status that makes my example relevant. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #27

That is partly why I recommended some introspection. TeamProg Apr 24 #29

Introspected as per your recommendation. Not a single reservation raised upon conclusion. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #33

I am shocked! Shocked!! Behind the Aegis Apr 24 #22

The UN is NOT a neutral arbiter. Happy Hoosier Apr 24 #25

And people wonder why Israel does not trust the UN? sarisataka Apr 24 #26

The U.N was the governing body that formed Israel! Yes! The U.N. has it out for Israel! ( sarcasm) TeamProg Apr 24 #35

That was 77 years ago, times have changed sarisataka Apr 24 #38

The governing body that formed Israel 75 years ago is not Beastly Boy Apr 24 #39

Be careful... Think. Again. Apr 24 #28

Thanks for the warning. I think I will be OK. Beastly Boy Apr 24 #40

Well..you know...Jooz. PCIntern Apr 24 #32

Precisely why the U.N. has no credibility RandySF Apr 24 #51

Just so that everyone understands the extent of rape and sexual violence that occurred on October 7th... madaboutharry Apr 24 #57