Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

General Discussion

Showing Original Post only (View all)

dalton99a

(81,656 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2024, 07:14 AM Apr 25

In Immunity Case, Trump Can Lose in Ways That Amount to a Win (NYT) [View all]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/24/us/trump-immunity-case-supreme-court.html

https://archive.ph/ji7QM

In Immunity Case, Trump Can Lose in Ways That Amount to a Win
After the justices hear arguments on Thursday, how they decide may be just as important as what they decide.
By Adam Liptak
April 24, 2024

...

One involves the timing of the court’s decision, which has received substantial attention given the relatively leisurely pace it has set for itself in the case. Even if Mr. Trump eventually and categorically loses, each passing week makes it more challenging for Jack Smith, the special counsel in the case, to complete the trial before the election.

The other, which has received less consideration but is no less important, is the possibility that the court’s ruling, even if issued promptly, will inject additional legal complications into the case that will take time to sort out.

The Supreme Court is unlikely to embrace the broadest version of Mr. Trump’s argument: that all of this was official conduct that cannot be the subject of a criminal prosecution. But the case is complicated enough that the justices may not issue a definitive ruling.

That is what happened in 2020, when another case involving Mr. Trump reached the justices just months before a presidential election. The question was similar to the one the court will consider on Thursday: whether Mr. Trump was entitled to a form of absolute presidential immunity allowing him to block prosecutors from obtaining his tax records.

In July 2020, Mr. Trump lost the case. But the loss was a kind of victory. The court sent the case back to the lower courts for more analysis, running out the clock.

...

18 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Now the NYT is just trolling us. 617Blue Apr 25 #1
Future NYT headline: Trump Snags Important Victory As He Begins His Incarceration dalton99a Apr 25 #3
Seriously, this is troll 617Blue Apr 25 #4
Does that mean you don't think the outcome described by the Times article can't and won't happen? onenote Apr 25 #5
The headline with the smug pic could be less flattering to their hero 617Blue Apr 25 #6
Not really an answer to the question: is the outcome described by the article possible? onenote Apr 25 #8
The headline is exactly what they've been lampooned for. 617Blue Apr 25 #11
Here ya go 617Blue Apr 25 #12
So everything the Times reports, even when it undeniably a fact, is not to be accepted onenote Apr 25 #13
Dude I get it, you're a lawyer, good for you 617Blue Apr 25 #14
Dude, I get it. You see bias in factual discussions you don't like. onenote Apr 25 #17
No I see bias in newspaper headlines - see it all the time. 617Blue Apr 25 #18
Delay, delay, delay.... MiHale Apr 25 #2
The NY Times article is right wing BS. gab13by13 Apr 25 #7
Since the article is about how the Court's decision could further delay the trial onenote Apr 25 #9
"everything to do with getting Trump to trial" TwilightZone Apr 25 #10
This is the antithesis of those "Here's how good news for President Biden spells bad news for President Biden:" Aristus Apr 25 #15
Exactly, bad news for Dump is good news for Dump! 617Blue Apr 25 #16
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»In Immunity Case, Trump C...