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The Young People Will Win [View all]

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We'd be wise to learn from history and listen to them now

QASIM RASHID
APR 28, 2024

"As I watch young people protest on their college campuses, face suspension, expulsion, and eviction, arrest and arraignment, and risk their futures for the sake of justice—I’m reminded that they are standing on the shoulders of giants.

I am reminded that Claudette Colvin was arrested at 15 for denying a seat to a white woman, and she laid the groundwork for the end of segregation on public transport.

I am reminded that John Lewis suffered police brutality at 20, and became the civil rights icon of our time.

I am reminded that the Feds killed Fred Hampton at 22, for his ‘crime’ of building social, racial, and economic justice."

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The Young People Will Win [View all] Goddessartist Apr 29 OP

He;s entitled to his opinion... brooklynite Apr 29 #1

Genocide Goddessartist Apr 29 #4

But apparently not horrific terrorism. Happy Hoosier Apr 29 #8

They are protesting horrific terrorism, Goddessartist Apr 29 #10

But not by Hamas. Interesting. Happy Hoosier Apr 29 #13

Protesting is time consuming... Think. Again. Apr 30 #101

I'm sorry...it was out of fashion when? CincyDem Apr 30 #106

Confusion all around, eh? Too many 'wars,' whom to charge? elleng May 2 #152

Sorry but it's frustrating that Hamas always gets a pass. jimfields33 Apr 29 #26

Sorry but Goddessartist Apr 29 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Apr 29 #33

Telling someone they are wrong is not the same as "silencing" them... Happy Hoosier Apr 29 #55

Post removed Post removed Apr 29 #57

We're supposed to read your mind? Happy Hoosier Apr 29 #58

To borrow a phrase enid602 Apr 29 #76

Nobody is trying to silence the message But Pres Cha Apr 29 #79

So why are US Jewish college kids being threatened on campus? They have nothing to do with any emulatorloo Apr 29 #34

No one despises Israelis? What a load of hooey. Happy Hoosier Apr 29 #54

and they don't want to acknowledge what is financing some of this JohnSJ Apr 29 #75

He is not representative of the students, that is very clear. AloeVera Apr 30 #81

How is it "very clear" that he is not representative of the students? N/T lapucelle Apr 30 #93

It's not clear to me. Happy Hoosier Apr 30 #98

And I was pointing out AloeVera Apr 30 #138

He just said the quiet part out loud The Mouth Apr 30 #148

All I can say is I agree with you and Brenda Apr 29 #67

As Helen Thomas Goddessartist Apr 29 #71

Interesting person to consider a good friend AZSkiffyGeek Apr 30 #127

She was an icon Goddessartist Apr 30 #128

So you think she was right when she said Jews need to go home to Poland and Germany? AZSkiffyGeek Apr 30 #131

No. Goddessartist Apr 30 #136

I wonder who "They" is that distorted her remarks by reporting them accurately AZSkiffyGeek Apr 30 #137

For what it's worth, Goddessartist Apr 30 #139

Telling Jews to go back to the countries where 6 million were slaughtered is criticizing Israel? AZSkiffyGeek Apr 30 #140

She was talking Goddessartist Apr 30 #141

That doesn't mean she wasn't an antisemite AZSkiffyGeek Apr 30 #142

I see you're so sure Goddessartist Apr 30 #143

I can only judge her by her statements AZSkiffyGeek Apr 30 #146

Helen Thomas was a hateful antisemite. madaboutharry May 2 #153

Wow, just wow. sheshe2 Apr 29 #74

What "lies" are you talking about, Brenda? i see no one Cha Apr 29 #80

Unbelievable. sheshe2 Apr 30 #149

Thanks Brenda! Goddessartist May 2 #150

It's Brought up Because Hamas Caused the Whole Damn Thing.. Cha Apr 29 #72

Seems like always TheCynic56 Apr 30 #105

Exactly! TheCynic56 Apr 30 #107

The No. 1 issue for me is preserving our democracy. BannonsLiver Apr 29 #14

Whatever the law prescribes for the categories I mentioned. brooklynite Apr 29 #16

That is a very good point...Rec Demsrule86 Apr 29 #24

whataboutism... BlueInID Apr 29 #37

"the eruption of violence in October set them off." brooklynite Apr 29 #40

Nope BlueInID Apr 29 #46

"an inevitable response to decades of oppression of Palestinians" brooklynite Apr 29 #50

These are extremely inforemd young adults. BlueInID Apr 29 #60

"These are extremely inforemd young adults." Jedi Guy Apr 29 #68

Please explain the history and difference between Revisionist and Labor Zionism. PufPuf23 Apr 29 #66

Gaza TheCynic56 Apr 30 #112

And where are the protests against Egypt being held? brooklynite Apr 30 #114

Whataboutism again! TheCynic56 Apr 30 #133

It's sad that only one nation can be protested at a time... brooklynite Apr 30 #134

I wouldn't say they see them as deplorable sarisataka Apr 29 #51

Hey hey, come on now. It's just aspirational. N/T Jedi Guy Apr 29 #69

Stop Depresssing the Vote for Pres Biden.. WE get Cha Apr 29 #78

Well, then, they're fucking morons, and hypocritical. GaYellowDawg Apr 30 #130

if they don't think there's any difference between the parties then they're just dumb NoRethugFriends Apr 29 #62

People tend to protest the genocide they see occurring today before their own eyes. AloeVera Apr 30 #82

'Rashly chose civil disobedience...' Goddessartist Apr 30 #95

Because the energy is not about genocide, it's about the alleged genociders. CincyDem Apr 30 #111

ICJ "didn't decide claim of genocide was plausible" nor "that there's a plausible case of genocide" emulatorloo Apr 29 #35

Again, as I've said before, Goddessartist Apr 30 #94

I am reporting on the FACTS of how the ICJ ruled. If you have a problem with their ruling emulatorloo Apr 30 #132

President of IJC confirms that it did not decide that SA's claim of genocide was plausible. lapucelle Apr 29 #70

Of course not. AloeVera Apr 29 #77

The question before the ICJ was whether or not to grant SA's interim demands lapucelle Apr 30 #91

To be technical, they're not protesting genocide AkFemDem Apr 30 #116

Get thee to the greatest page malaise Apr 29 #2

Does this include the young paid protesters? gab13by13 Apr 29 #3

"Paid" is a slur about the vast majority of protesters. PufPuf23 Apr 29 #64

Protests helped end the Vietnam War, bolster the Civil Rights Movement, and end South Africa's apartheid. Lonestarblue Apr 29 #5

The war continued for another 8 years...Nixon was elected twice. Demsrule86 Apr 29 #19

America suffers badly from short-term memory loss. America also suffers from shiny-object syndrom Hekate Apr 29 #63

Like yelling this? Goddessartist Apr 30 #113

They don't feel threatened. They are threatened on a daily basis. That is wrong. Demsrule86 Apr 29 #20

Comparing apples and bananas NoRethugFriends Apr 29 #6

Oranges. Apples and Oranges. Voltaire2 Apr 29 #7

I'll stick with bananas NoRethugFriends Apr 29 #61

So Israel will be destroyed edhopper Apr 29 #9

How obtuse Goddessartist Apr 29 #11

It's what edhopper Apr 29 #29

So the protesters in Seattle chanting "We don't want no Jewish state, we want back to '48"... Jedi Guy Apr 29 #39

Ah, another one that likes to equate Goddessartist Apr 30 #97

Again, not buying what you're selling. Jedi Guy Apr 30 #100

You do you Goddessartist Apr 30 #109

"You do you and accuse everyone of defending Hamas." Jedi Guy Apr 30 #117

They are Goddessartist Apr 30 #120

You will, I hope, forgive me if I'm not moved by an appeal to the majority fallacy. Jedi Guy Apr 30 #121

These are Goddessartist Apr 30 #122

While I appreciate the Star Wars framing, it's still a non sequitur. N/T Jedi Guy Apr 30 #124

What do you call it then? Goddessartist Apr 30 #126

I call it war. Hamas fucked around and found out. Jedi Guy Apr 30 #129

Not obtuse at all when things are spoken in plain English Hekate Apr 29 #65

That's the goal. Hamas is pretty open about it. comradebillyboy Apr 29 #17

No, a two state solution with NATO or UN forces there is the only answer. Demsrule86 Apr 29 #23

Two country solution is best. It gives Israel the ability to worry about themselves. jimfields33 Apr 29 #27

Israel wants GAZA...did you hear Jared about putting up hotels there? Demsrule86 Apr 29 #38

Israel is slowly but aggressively taking the West Bank. nt PufPuf23 Apr 29 #43

It needs to go back to the old West Bank border. Can't create a pock-marked state. LeftInTX Apr 29 #49

I know. It is disgraceful. Demsrule86 Apr 29 #53

Jared can still get hotel. He'll just pay the Palestinians. jimfields33 Apr 29 #47

Jared is Jewish. There is no way that will happen. And it will take time for stabilty. Demsrule86 Apr 29 #52

And there are massive natural gas deposits Bettie Apr 30 #108

the biggest flaw in polling is how they count young voters. mopinko Apr 29 #12

That guy can't seem to win though. nt LexVegas Apr 29 #15

Well I am reminded that Nixon won in 68 and 72 with a war that we were fighting Demsrule86 Apr 29 #18

College kids didn't end the Vietnam War. Ex Lurker Apr 29 #21

That is what I said...perhaps I didn't make it clear. Protesting the war did nothing. Nixon Demsrule86 Apr 29 #22

That simply is not true. The protests made a difference. Big Blue Marble Apr 30 #87

And consider Boomers were the largest generation ever...what if they had voted for Demsrule86 Apr 29 #25

College Students MoonlightHillFarm Apr 29 #31

By 1972 the voting age was 18 Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 30 #115

huh? Mondale didn't run for president until the 80's Voltaire2 Apr 29 #44

Kent State happened in 1970. There will still protests in the early 70's... Demsrule86 Apr 29 #56

Americans under 21 first voted 50 years ago. It didn't go as expected. Celerity Apr 30 #86

well, widespread draft resistance played a huge role in ending our direct intervention. Voltaire2 Apr 29 #42

Unfortunately a hell of a lot more than middle America jimfields33 Apr 29 #48

Correct. So clearly 'middle America' didn't Voltaire2 Apr 29 #59

1968 ended with Republicans controlling the White House for the next 20 out ot 24 years MistakenLamb Apr 30 #89

There are no winners bdamomma Apr 29 #30

IMO, the media is targeting the disrupters for their own purposes even when walkingman Apr 29 #32

They are doing the right thing Goddessartist Apr 29 #36

We are there in spirit, dear Goddessartist. AloeVera Apr 30 #85

Yes. The few disruptors are happily amplified and the rest, who are peaceful, are ignored. AloeVera Apr 30 #84

Not even just ignored. Big Blue Marble Apr 30 #88

I stand corrected. AloeVera Apr 30 #92

Do you have any evidence for your claims? lapucelle Apr 30 #96

Having once been a young person during the Vietnam War, I have some experience in the matter. elocs Apr 29 #41

For the most part, I agree. Kath2 Apr 29 #45

The Dems Will WIN OUR Election.. Thank Goodness!! Cha Apr 29 #73

Message From a Gazan to Campus Protesters: You're Hurting the Palestinian Cause Cha Apr 30 #83

The civil rights movement was non-violent, not cursing, screaming, name-calling, threats. betsuni Apr 30 #90

The Young People Will Win. Passages Apr 30 #99

They will. Goddessartist Apr 30 #118

UT at Austin Passages Apr 30 #102

If they sound as delusional and uninformed as some on Nixie Apr 30 #103

So proud of these young people and the faculty standing with them. Nanjeanne Apr 30 #104

We are as well, Goddessartist Apr 30 #119

Although many don't want to admit it - there are so many Holocaust scholars, survivors, families who stand with students Nanjeanne Apr 30 #123

Thank you so much! Goddessartist Apr 30 #144

I understand. I periodically have to leave DU to regain some balance. Peace. Nanjeanne Apr 30 #145

He's not waxing poetic about all the young people in history who didn't win though... AkFemDem Apr 30 #110

No, they won't. The young people will not win. GaYellowDawg Apr 30 #125

I'm hoping this will motivate them to vote. However, I wouldn't bet the farm. walkingman Apr 30 #135

Eh? JustAnotherGen Apr 30 #147

Where are the hostages? RandySF May 2 #151