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Pope Francis: Ukraine should have the courage of the 'white flag,' negotiate end of war with Russia [View all]

Source: ABC News

ROME -- ROME (AP) — Pope Francis said in an interview that Ukraine, facing a possible defeat, should have the courage to negotiate an end to the war with Russia and not be ashamed to sit at the same table to carry out peace talks.

The pope made his appeal during an interview recorded last month with Swiss broadcaster RSI, which was partially released on Saturday.

“I think that the strongest one is the one who looks at the situation, thinks about the people and has the courage of the white flag, and negotiates,” Francis said, adding that talks should take place with the help of international powers.

Ukraine remains firm on not engaging directly with Russia on peace talks, and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said multiple times the initiative in peace negotiations must belong to the country which has been invaded.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pope-francis-ukraine-courage-white-flag-negotiate-end-107965648

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Pope Francis: Ukraine should have the courage of the 'white flag,' negotiate end of war with Russia [View all] Polybius Mar 10 OP

Sad and Wrong, Pope. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 10 #1

I agree with you. Deuxcents Mar 10 #3

My guess he is not saying this... FarPoint Mar 10 #52

HOW F'N DARE YOU, frankie? How dare you??? why don't you talk to niyad Mar 10 #2

He's in really bad health, This statement does not sound like a Pope that was all about social evil. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 10 #4

Very interesting take. niyad Mar 10 #5

Hmmm. Thou shall not steal. Marcuse Mar 10 #45

Well, look at the bright side... malthaussen Mar 10 #43

Zelensky seems to care. former9thward Mar 10 #44

Everybody should read the section in the article about frankie's support niyad Mar 10 #6

I saw this earlier in the news tornado34jh Mar 10 #7

Very unfortunate. It's a reminder... Eyeball_Kid Mar 10 #34

I put this on another post, but it bears really asking, but it involves replacing Ukraine with Argentina tornado34jh Mar 11 #66

Wrong wrong wrong montanacowboy Mar 10 #8

I wonder if there are pro-Russia cardinals/priests in there tornado34jh Mar 10 #15

No, Francis, how about YOU surrender in all those lawsuits brought by victims of your pedo priests? SunSeeker Mar 10 #9

Exactly...what's that bible verse about take the log out of your own eye b4 taking the twig out of someone else's PortTack Mar 10 #12

Would he surrender the Vatican? He would not. AllyCat Mar 10 #10

The RC only has a Vatican to surrender Voltaire2 Mar 10 #55

The Ukrainians know they would be worse off under Putin's rule compared with fighting on. Earth-shine Mar 10 #11

Indeed! Poopin has even said he intends to move the capital of Russia to Kyiv...NEVER happening PortTack Mar 10 #13

That would be a rather putative move. Earth-shine Mar 10 #14

Putin is lying. He lies like Trump. Eyeball_Kid Mar 10 #35

No Way!!!!! There is no justice in this suggestion. Only capitulation to a dangerous despot. Ford_Prefect Mar 10 #16

Frankly I don't care what the Poop thinks. twodogsbarking Mar 10 #17

I support Peace hueymahl Mar 10 #18

You mean "peace" under Putin's terms. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 10 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Mar 10 #24

Of Russia invaded the US, should we totally surrender for the sake of "peace" ???? Irish_Dem Mar 10 #32

Peace? When Putin moves his troops out of Ukraine. That's peace. n/t Eyeball_Kid Mar 10 #37

Sometimes I feel I am posting on the Republican Underground hueymahl Mar 10 #47

Many of the Republicans support Putin, including their presumptive/de facto presidential nominee, Emrys Mar 10 #49

Well, if that's the way you feel, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 10 #50

The war in Viet Mam was a civil war. The domino theory was used to argue for our involvement but mobeau69 Mar 10 #53

Uh no, it was a war of national liberation Voltaire2 Mar 10 #56

All on the side of the south. The US didn't have any colonial ambitions. Ultimately it was North v South. mobeau69 Mar 10 #58

'the south' was a fiction of US Imperial creation. Voltaire2 Mar 10 #60

Why? Did Ukraine start it? sinkingfeeling Mar 10 #19

Pope Francis, how could you? How could you push for Fascism winning? lark Mar 10 #20

Thanks, Pope Neville Chamberlin. jvill Mar 10 #21

Send some humanitarian aid and shut up. twodogsbarking Mar 10 #23

The pope must be suffering from bluestarone Mar 10 #25

He might have black smoke coming out of his posterior. GreenWave Mar 10 #26

"Negotiations are never a surrender." mymomwasright Mar 10 #27

I didn't know The Pope was part French. nycbos Mar 10 #28

Sounds like the position of the church during WWII JohnSJ Mar 10 #29

While reading this I was blasted with a memory of what I learned in school Zilli Mar 10 #30

Absolutely not! OMGWTF Mar 10 #31

How very disappointing. Suggesting Ukraine should surrender to a fascist dictator and allow them free reign to rape Martin68 Mar 10 #33

I absolutely guarantee in the end HareKrishna Mar 10 #36

Putin is a bad faith negotiator. Eyeball_Kid Mar 10 #38

You cannot absolutely guarantee that, MarineCombatEngineer Mar 10 #51

This guy, this pope blue-wave Mar 10 #39

Winston Churchill and me... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 10 #40

Ukraine will never do that. Know why? Because Putin would annihilate them. FakeNoose Mar 10 #41

WTF, Dude? You should have the courage of a wise man... malthaussen Mar 10 #42

He might stick to things like talking snakes and turning wine to blood. nt Gore1FL Mar 10 #46

Oh, that's rich NanaCat Mar 10 #48

Wrong!!! RKP5637 Mar 10 #54

Could it be the Pope (or stand-ins) pushing this because Zelensky is a Jew? LiberalFighter Mar 10 #57

Even if they did so, which they won't CanonRay Mar 10 #59

If another nation suggests surrender, they should be willing to give up their own territory... ExciteBike66 Mar 10 #61

Defend Ukraine to the last man. The Grand Illuminist Mar 10 #62

Fuck that, Frankie. LudwigPastorius Mar 10 #63

Francis needs to stay in his lane n/t TexasBushwhacker Mar 10 #64

Has the pope ever visited Ukraine, Kyiv, or Volodymyr Zelenskyy? tornado34jh Mar 10 #65

Apparently, the Russians approached the Ukrainians and asked them about surrender Kennah Mar 11 #67